O interminável inferno astral gremista

Quem trabalha ou trabalhou em jornal diário sabe como é complicado fechar as edições de Natal e, principalmente, de Ano Novo. Além de ser uma edição que vale para dois dias festivos (os dias 25 e 31 são os únicos feriados nas redações de jornais), há uma preocupante falta de assunto.

Por isso, boa parte do jornal é feita com matérias ‘especiais’ preparadas com alguma antecedência.

Se o sujeito trabalha na editoria de esportes, então, o problema é ainda mais grave. Jogadores em férias, dirigentes mais preocupados com as festas da virada. Falta assunto. Aí, fica aquele monte de especulação, coisa chata, repetitiva, cansativa.

Então, em meados dos gloriosos anos 90 eu decidi imitar o que todas as outras editorias faziam, ou seja, ouvir pessoas que fazem previsões, como cartomantes, astrólogos, tarólogos, jogadores de búzios, etc.

Como eu sempre respeitei a astrologia, que não é exatamente igual a esses horóscopos diários, decidi procurar um estudioso. Encontrei o Bruno Vasconcelos. Nem me lembro como.

Expliquei o que eu pretendia: a partir das datas de nascimento de Grêmio e Inter, ele faria o mapa astral dos dois clubes. Faltou um dado importante: o horário de fundação. Pelo que pesquisei, os dois clubes foram fundados à noite, mas não há certeza nos horários. Mesmo assim, Bruno encarou.

No cálculo dele não foram considerados as datas de nascimento dos atletas, o que daria muito trabalho para o astrólogo, que não era remunerado.

No começo, os colegas brincavam comigo dizendo que eu é que era o astrólogo, que eu inventava as previsões.

Dizem que o Luís Fernando Veríssimo, em seu começo em jornal, escrevia horóscopos diários.

O fato é que o percentual de acertos do Bruno era muito alto. Há algumas previsões fantásticas, realmente surpreendentes. Há erros, também, claro.

Para calar os incréus, publiquei lá pelo terceiro ou quarto ano de previsões, uma foto do Bruno. Mesmo assim, tem gente que até hoje acredita que eu mesmo é quem fazia tudo.

Eu apenas transcrevia o que ele me passava, primeiro por telefone, depois, com o advento da internet, por e-mail. Alguns deles eu tenho guardados para provar que eu era apenas o mensageiro nesse processo.

Bem, no final de 2004 ou 2005 – se alguém procurar vai encontrar – Bruno Vasconcelos previu que o Inter estava na iminência de começar a viver um período de vitórias semelhante ao dos anos 70, em forte projeção no exterior, em função de determinado posicionamento dos astros, etc.

Desnecessário dizer que ele estava certo.

Mas havia outra previsão, uma previsão ainda mais arrojada. E, para os gremistas, assustadora. Confesso que não levei fé, não acreditei no Bruno, e temia ver o meu amigo – sim, acabamos nos tornando amigos – pagando mico, o que também me atingiria, pois eu assinava as matérias, aliás, de grande repercussão a cada virada de ano.

Mas o que Bruno previu, que eu, covardemente, omiti, ou amenizei, não lembro ao certo?

Acreditem ou não, Bruno previu que o Grêmio, também com base nos astros, continuaria por longo tempo sem conquistar títulos de maior projeção.

Quando li o email que ele mandou com as previsões levei um susto. O Bruno pirou, pensei. Não pode ser, de jeito nenhum. Telefonei pra ele – ah, o Bruno não acompanhava futebol, mas se dizia gremista – e o questionei. Ele repetiu que isso aquilo mesmo que ele enxergava no mapa astral do Grêmio.

– Esse período de vacas magras pode ir até 2015, 2016 -, garantiu ele.

Hoje, depois do que vi acontecer nos últimos anos, com o Grêmio beliscando títulos e perdendo no detalhe, reconheço que pode estar mesmo ocorrendo uma influência negativa de alguma determinada situação astral.

O fato é que, infelizmente, a previsão está se confirmando.

Observação: Bruno Vasconcelos faleceu faz alguns anos. Em respeito a ele, deixei de seguir com as previsões astrológicas de final de ano para a dupla Gre-Nal.

Com isso, ficou mais difícil fechar a edição de 31 de dezembro/01 de janeiro. Felizmente, já há quatro anos não preciso mais me preocupar com isso.

Encerro essas linhas com uma mensagem ao BV: eu não levei fé; tu estavas com a razão, parceiro.

Se gostou, compartilhe!

  • Gabriel

    Vou para as Filipinas e retorno em 2016 para as Olimpíadas!!!

  • Jocelito

    2015,2016 já está aí.
    Só mais dois,ou,no máximo três anos de derrotas é moleza para quem faz doze que está na fila.
    Que boa notícia Ilgo.
    Achei que iríamos ficar 30 anos na seca como o timinho da beira do brejo.
    Ufa que susto!

  • Renata

    Bhá Ilgo, confesso que chega essa época do ano, faço uma busca minuciosa de previsões para o grêmio, tentando encontrar um ponto comum entre elas para o que pode se concretizar, nem leio sobre meu signo, mas sim sobre o grêmio…depois dessa tua “notícia” posso poupar meu tempo esse ano e só voltar em 2015…já vou me preparando psicologicamente para as piadas de 2014…credo…

  • Jocelito

    Agora,falando sério,o GRÊMIO me lembra do time da beira do brejo nos anos 80 e 90.
    Nunca chegava,e,quando chegava já se sabia que não iria levar.
    Sempre faltava alguma coisa na hora “H”.
    O mesmo que acontece com o GRÊMIO!
    Tem que ter algo de sobrenatural nisso tudo.

  • Gabriel

    Realmente o Deuses do futebol estão se divertindo as nossas custas, nos colocam entre os melhores , depois nos abandonam e para satirizar acabando de vez com nossa autoestima nos colocam do JOGO DO TÍTULO, jogo que deferia ser em Juiz de Fora, mas porque não pedir uma força para o Diabo e dificultar mais o martírio tricolor; feito com a ajuda dos assessores do CAPETA que dirIgem a CBF vamos viver PARA SEMPRE COM A MARCA DO DERROTADO NO TRICAMPEONATO DO CRUZEIRO!!!!!!!!!!!!

    A única ponta de dignidade que nos resta é ARMAR UM FERROLHO com 8 ZAGUEIROS e 3 goleiros e EVITAR que o Cruzeiro seja o PRIMEIRO e ÚNICO campeão brasileiro a vencer TODOS os times!!!!

  • ilgo

    Se o Criciúma venceu o Grêmio duas vezes, por que o Gremio não pode vencer o Cruzeiro duas vezes?
    Cravei Barcos como centroavante do meu time no Cartola. Dida é o goleiro.
    A previsão falar em ATÉ 2015, 2016, então quem sabe em 2014?
    Vcs acham que o Koff vai sair sem título?Tão de brincadeira.

  • Renata

    Ilgo…eu acho tanta coisa que me parece lógica…que no fim tem dado tão errado…hehehe

  • Renata

    Por isso eu prefiro “achar”! que o grêmio vai perder para o cruzeiro, vai que, né?!

  • Jocelito

    Já que o assunto é meio mistico,essa é para quem ainda não viu.Eu achei fantástico!
    http://www.marcioneves.net/2010/11/o-pacto.html

  • Gabriel

    Quantas vezes o raio vai cair neste brazuca???heheh

    Pensei no Rodolfo, nesta rodada, o que acha?

  • Gabriel

    Jocelito eu não ACEITARIA.

  • Jocelito

    Na hora que o desespero aperta,o raciocínio desaparece,mas,eu também não aceitaria,Gabriel.

  • Querubini

    Com a devida venia, os problemas do Grêmio são bem mundanos e vocês estão cansados de saber. Não há nada de místico. Falta acabar com a politicagem, criar boa gestão de longo prazo, formar craques identificados com o clube, afastar os empresários e os mercenários jogadores, a torcida deixar o amor incondicional e pensar racionalmente, arrumar o marketing, etc.

  • Rafael M.

    O problema da eliminação foi o jogo lá no pr, onde o Grêmio foi covarde. Me deu a impressão (ou sensação?) logo no começo da partida de que o Renato estaria satisfeito com o 0x0 ou 1×0 contra, achando que aqui revertia. Gosto do Renato, acho que ele tem muito mérito pelo que fez no br2013, mas acho 600 mil/mês caro para qualquer treinador. Só aceitaria, por esse valor, o Felipão.

  • Henrique

    Esta parece ser uma grande noticia, apesar de termos que aguardar 2 anos, ainda na seca.
    Já é uma luz no fim do tunel, pois parem para pensar, na hora que o Gremio começar a ganhar, não será 1 título só, podem apostar que daremos a volta no mundo novamente.
    A glória retornará.
    Os jogadores que levantarão os canecos, ainda nem conhecemos, talvez tenha alguns de categorias de base.
    Enquanto isso, outros times vão se apagar e rumar pra segundona, onde já deveriam ter ido há muito tempo.
    Ficamos no aguardo.

  • ilgo

    Querubini, o Descrente.
    Já parou pra pensar que esses problemas todos relatados por ti podem ocorrer pela influência dos astros? Hein, hein?
    E aquela bola que insiste em não entrar? Hein?
    Mas todo ciclo astrológico tem início meio e fim.
    E esse do Grêmio está terminando.
    Vem aí, o inferno astral vermelho.
    Quem avisa é o ‘Pai Ilgo’

  • Francisco Coelho

    Ilgo o vaticinador.
    Por favor, me elucide o rumor e motivo pelo qual em 2014 nosso tricolor necessita gastar com jogador colocando-os no Hotel Deville e fazer treinos no Olímpico numa pré-temporada sem rubor. O jogador não tem moradia e celular com despertador?
    Se o clube já tem um buraco nas contas só vai aumentando com estas ideias de gastador ou de algum mau gestor que possa ter “algum incentivo” escuso para tal fato.
    Se engordou ou emagreceu que o faça na sua despesa e não na do clube.
    É fácil gastar o que não é seu. Depois ficam pedindo para os torcedores apoiarem isso ou aquilo enquanto os gastos e locação de quartos serviram como motel.
    Tem muito dirigente que acompanha delegação para esta finalidade. Comer, beber e desfrutar…

    — Na outra vez (2011), o Renato quis fazer a pré-temporada aqui. Então, a tendência é que seja em Porto Alegre. Já contatamos o hotel, tudo está sendo preparado para isso — diz o executivo de futebol Rui Costa.

    http://zerohora.clicrbs.com.br/rs/esportes/gremio/noticia/2013/11/pre-temporada-do-gremio-para-2014-devera-ocorrer-no-estadio-olimpico-4327813.html

  • Walter borba

    Ilgo,
    Chega a ser curioso, mas o SIlas, foi o ultimo tecnico a nos dar um caneco.

  • Getulio

    Esse vidente http://magoisaias.blogspot.com.br/#!/2013/11/gremio-fora-da-copa-do-brasil-alias-nao.html comenta desse bloqueio astral vivido pelo Grêmio, dizem que em 2007 dirigentes fizeram um trabalhinho pesado pra trancar nosso time, pra quem lembra daquelas 13 cabeças de cabritos encontradas a beira do Guaíba à época.

  • Ricardo de Cruzeiro

    O que o Ilgo AINDA está omitindo:segundo a previsão a seca terminaria em 2015/16,MAS seria com a participação importante de um técnico ou jogador que era muito VERMELHO(argh…).Serve mesmo assim?

  • ilgo

    Boa essa dica do Jocelito:
    http://www.marcioneves.net/2010/11/o-pacto.html

    Getúlio, essa dos cabritos eu não lembro, mas há muito misticismo no meio do futebol.
    Qdo o Inter perdia tudo, havia uma história de que um massagista do tempo do rolo compressor havia enterrrado um sapo numa das goleiras do beira-Rio assim que foi demitido, lá pelo final dos anos 70 início dos 80.
    esqueci o nome dele agora, mas conversei com sua família, que morava embaixo do estádio dos Eucaliptos, e eles negaram.
    O fato é que o Inter tinha uma dívida trabalhista que acabou sendo paga e aí o Inter voltou a vencer de novo.

  • ilgo

    Esta dica é do Getulio
    http://magoisaias.blogspot.com.br/

  • Henrique

    Ilgo, vc por acaso saberia dizer se os cocôs entrarão no periodo das trevas ?

  • Ilgo, parece que a maldição vai até o ano em que morrerá o Gênio da Padre Chagas…. Reza a lenda …

  • Gabriel

    Acertou em cheio Francisco e acrescento que com aquela preparação o time caminhou até o meio do ano e no último quarto de ano caminhou, ou alguém esqueceu que corremos risco de descenso???

    Uma palavra AMADORISMO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Gabriel

    ILGO com tanto AMADORISMO na direção, um técnico que refuta ir para o interior como o Diabo foge da cruz, Barcos com a 9, não era preciso 13 cabeças de cabrito para o Grêmio não vencer!!!

    Veja bem ouvi dizer que pagam 1 milhão e 300 mil por mês para o Barcos, se for verdade é motivo de justa causa para quem contratou!!! Com esta baba dava para trazer uns 3 craques + uns 4 bons!!!

  • Gabriel

    E plagiando Renato, o Real Madrid com 3 volantes e 3 atacantes mete 5 no bom time da Real Sociedad, tá bom nós temos o Barcos eles o CR7 que com três gols, uma bola no travessão, um pênalti sofrido e uma assistência foi o destaque. Os números do português são bem parecidos com os argentino, são 28 gols em 20 jogos, porém o que o Cristiano faz por temporada, Barcos tem na CARREIRA!!!!

    Se dependermos um hat-trick do Barcos estamos f…

  • Jocelito

    Gabriel,pelo que sei,o Barcos ganhou 1.300.000,00 de uma divida que o Palmeiras tinha com ele,e,que o GRÊMIO quitou.
    O salário seria o equivalente ao que ganha o Kleber e o Moreno,ou seja; “apenas” quinhentinho por mês.
    Tadinho como ganha mal!

  • Francisco Coelho

    Gabriel; no mínimo seriam uns 50 apt. com um custo de 300 cada no mínimo. Lembrando que em 2014 teremos a parada da Copa.
    Jogadores, comissão técnica, pessoal de apoio (fisicultores, nutricionistas, seguranças…) e aspones.
    Bastaria dar férias aos que não vão jogar com o Renato e antecipar as mesmas. Não falaram em usar os juniores no gauchão? Que diabo de planejamento é esse.
    Nem terminou o brasileirão e já se confirma a manutenção do Renato pelo planejamento esdrúxulo de um treineiro que não ganhou nada e querem que siga enganando mais um ano. É como o Luxa que queria Londrina ou Itatiba estourando os cofres do clube.
    O CD eleito não cobra estas aberrações?

  • Francisco Coelho

    Leandro marca e o Palmeiras vence. Rodrigo Nunes de Sá deu 2 cartões e expulsou Leandro. Leandro é uma criança grande, mas marca gols.

  • Francisco Coelho

    Sinceramente, não gostaria de ganhar o título contra o Grêmio já no próximo domingo. Para mim, seria como ganhar o presente de Natal em novembro ou saber antecipadamente o fim de um filme no meio da história.
    http://www.mg.superesportes.com.br/app/noticias/colunistas/henrique-portugal/2013/11/05/coluna_henrique_portugal,267708/sonho-real.shtml

  • Querubini

    Leandro está fazendo gols contra times da 2ª divisão. Vamos ver em 2014.

  • Rodrigo-Uruguaiana

    Ilgo: O bom é que agora aquele teu grande amigo posta uma atrás da outra, está feliz, quando a gente ganha ele some mas quando estamos na fossa como agora ele aparece. O cara sempre torce para a sua convicção estar certa, nunca para o Clube, e ainda critica as direções pelo eterno jogo de vaidades, mas o cara é igual torce para a sua teoria não para o Grêmio. Se fosse da direção faria igual. O Renato agora é a Geni, se entrasse sem o Zé Roberto e perdesse seria apedrejado, como fez o que todos os entendidos queriam e perdeu, tomou pedrada. Se ganhasse poderia ter entrado com o Gabiru que seria aplaudido. Renato não poderia renovar, pois vai pagar a conta por todos os anos de vitórias do Vermelhos e das nossas derrotas. Vai sair escorraçado pior que o Falcão. A culpa dos atacantes terem desaprendido a fazer gols é dele também mesmo botando todos os que tinha disponível nos 2 jogos. Mas alguém tem que ser o Cristo, o cara para ser xingado. Os veteranos não fizeram nada e os pratas da casa também, ai nem Deus ajuda.

  • roque fernando

    Etou longe de ser supersticioso, não tenho vocação para acreditar nos astros. Tenho fé acredito em Deus e astrologia,horóscopo não me fazem a cabeça. Contudo, como acreditei que o Grêmio ganhou titulos por gestões compententes de nossos dirigentes, acredito que por incompetência perdermos titulos. Interessante que astrologia passa longe de clubes como barcelona, chicago bulls em basquete e outros atletas que administram suas carreiras de formas individuais, Airton Senna, enfim, tem um monte de exemplos. Agora, não discuto a influência da lua e da rotação da terra na agricultura…O Grêmio esta assim por sua própria culpa, pela sua politica pelos seus próprios dirigentes. O inter não ganhava nada quando sua politica era dversificada como a nossa de agora. Quando conseguiu formar uma maioria ganhou o que nós ganhamos. Quando Odone e Koff trabalhavam juntos nós ganhavamos. Enfim, dai a “Cesar o que é de Cesar”, estamos recebendo o salário da incoerência dos nossos caciques e dos nossos dirigentes. E quanto a 2015 ou 2016 é o fim do mau agouro, se as pessoas detentoras do destino Grêmio selassem um “pacto” pelo Grêmio, no fim de 2013, talvez em 2014 eu prevejo um Grêmio iniciando período de títulos.

  • ilgo

    Rodrigo, o futebol é uma mãe generosa que abriga tudo.
    Vai dos profetas do acontecido até o EU Futebol Clube.
    No meu tempo de jornalista esportivo profissional sempre disse que era gremista quando me perguntaram, mas eu sempre fui mesmo ILGO F.C.
    O Grêmio vem em segundo lugar. Depois, o Avenida de Santa Cruz. ehehehe
    Fora isso é fanatismo, e fanatismo, em qualquer setor, é algo muito perigoso.
    Sou fanático apenas por uma coisa: viver, de preferência com saúde.

  • Gabriel

    Como tem cronista que torce para o Avenida de Stª Cruz, hein ô Bat…opa Ilgo!!! Hehehe

    Francisco o Yago Pikachu foi indicado pelo iarley para o nosso rival. Fiz uma lista de atletas que obtiveram algum destaque e considero POSSÍVEIS de serem contratados para o tricolor(acho uma completa falta de visão indicar Éverton R. ou um Montillo, pois estes são caros e difícil negociação) ;os primeiros de cada setor na minha opinião chegam e saem jogando.

    Lateral direito : Léo (Atlético PR), Sueliton (Criciúma) e Luis Ricardo (Portuguesa).

    Zagueiros: Dória (Botafogo).

    Meia: Éverton (Atlético PR) e Marlone (Vasco).

    Atacantes: Marcelo (Atlético PR), Rildo (Ponte Preta), Maicon Leite(Naútico) e Hugo (Naútico).

    O que acham?

  • Gabriel

    Na lista anterior não constam posições em que estamos bem servidos, exemplo goleiro, e os nomes estão dispostos em uma ordem de prioridade, ou seja eu tentaria o primeiro depois o segundo e assim sucessivamente.

    Não coloquei nenhum atleta que pertença aos vermelhos por motivos óbvios…

    Mesmo considerando que negociar com os Petralhas seja extremamente difícil estes atletas poderiam entrar em possíveis trocas, como Marcelo Moreno, Bérgson etc…

    Até

  • Gabriel

    Se arranjasse algum investidor uma boa seria:
    Jucilei (Anzhi Makhachkala),
    Danilinho (Tigres de la UANL, MEX),
    Wellington Nem (encostado,nem farda no Shakhtar Donetsk) ,
    Cleiton Xavier ( Metalist Kharkiv)
    Marquinho (Roma)
    Roberto Firmino (Hoffenheim artilheiro do camp. alemão)
    Maicon (Lokomotiv)
    Jonas (Valência)

    Não é tão difícil reforçar o time, o mercado oferece opções de bons jogadores, caros e baratos, basta arregaçar as mangas e TRABALHAR!!!!

    Na minha opinião deve-se sempre trabalhar com mais de duas negociações simultâneas para caso alguma dê para trás.

    Até

  • Roque Fernando

    Saíram das previsões da astrologia e foram para as contratações ? Hehe voltaram ao mundo real blza. As contratações que o Gabriel sugeriu, tirando o wellington nem acho que todas seriam bem-vindas. Tem que mesclar os novos com experientes com todo mundo sabe. O tinta quando grêmio emprestou voltou melhor. Pode ser o que aconteça com o Leandro que está no palmeiras, mais amadurecido como o Marcelo moreno, não gosto de queimar, mas estes 2 jogadores podem voltar com títulos. Coisas que não tiveram por aqui. Independente do técnico que estava no grêmio.

  • Roque Fernando

    Tinta leia-se tinga,

  • Gabriel

    Lembrei que o Andershow está ENCOSTADO no Manchester só esperando uma proposta de empréstimo, seria um bom nome na minha opinião.

    Se alguém lembrar de alguém ou tiver alguma contestação, postem aí, pois tenho esperança que alguém algum dia leia as sugestões da torcida, tanto em contratações como em setores diversos a ex do Marketing, tome a ideia para si e seja pai da criança.

    Como gremista não quero louros, apenas ajudar.

  • Roque Fernando

    O Renato é um Celso Roth, o tempo dele é de 6 meses, não trocou quando tinha que ter trocado e quando estava tomando 2 gols, trocou, é ridiculo de tão irritante que é a atuação dele no campo.Se for pra ir na libertadores com ele, vai ser outro fiasco. Não tem condições e estou achando que nem G4 vai dar. O que vai ser do Grêmio ?

  • Gabriel

    Acho que não foram as previsões que fizeram meu treinador mexer aos 35 do 2º tempo, levando chocolate!!!

    É TRISTE MAS 3 X 0 É A DIFERENÇA DO CRUZEIRO EM RELAÇÃO AO GRÊMIO!!! Principalmente em relação a coragem.

    Tomamos um passeio, uma aula tática, de alterações no momento estratégico (quase cirúrgico) e vão dizer o Fábio fez grandes defesas, rebato que foram lances esporádicos e se fizéssemos 1 íamos levar 4 ou 5, porque o cruzeiro tirou o pé.

    Fosse o Marcelo técnico do Grêmio o Barcos seria BANCÁRIO, visto como age em relação ao Julio Batista.

    É hora de planejar 2014, minhas indicações são neste sentido, PREVI depois do jogo contra o Coritiba que íamos perder a vaga na LA 2014, está aí para qualquer um ver, NÃO PREVEJO O FUTURO NAS ESTRELAS, MAS CONHEÇO FUTEBOL!!!

  • Jocelito

    Tá cada vez mais difícil defender o Renato.
    O Maxi em 10 minutos fez mais que todo o time no primeiro tempo.
    Até o Barcos melhorou com a entrada dele.
    Enfim,o resultado de 3×0 foi injusto.
    Poderia ter sido 1×1, 2×1,mas nunca 3×0.
    Gabriel,todos aqui do blog “acham” que entendem de futebol.
    Cada um da sua maneira,com acertos e erros,todos tem opinião.
    Infelizmente futebol não tem cartilha e nem lógica.

  • Querubini

    voto contra a renovação com o Renato. Agora é cheio de “cascudos” e nada. Não consegue arrumar o ataque milionário…

  • Jocelito

    Muitos falam que o Cruzeiro teve planejamento.
    A verdade não é bem essa.
    No início do ano fez contratações erradas.
    Contrataram o Tinga,que quase não jogou,o Gilson lateral esquerdo ex GRÊMIO,Leandrinho CSA,Souza que era volante do Náutico,tentou o Adriano imperador,e,os jogadores que realmente fizeram a diferença,custaram e muito aos cofres cruzeirense.Dedé,Júlio Batista,William,Dagoberto(não sei se esqueci alguém).O fato é que o brasileiro desse ano foi muito fraco,e,quem beneficiou-se disso foi o Cruzeiro,mas,não me falem mais só em planejamento.

  • O Renato sabe cornetear dizendo que a Grêmio esta no G4 e os outros estão de férias. Fica quieto pois hoje estamos no G4 pela vitória deles. e corre o risco de chegar no fim do campeonato fora do G10 e atras do Inter em pontos. São 18 tempos de 45 minutos de futebol que não sabemos o que é vencer e 12, doze mesmo, 45 minutos de futebol sem marcar gol. Sei que treinador não entra em campo para jogar e marcar gol, mas também posso dizer então que se nada pode ser feito pelo treinador fora de campo: Este tipo de futebol não precisa então de treinador.

  • Walter Borba

    Que chocolate. Há 5 rodadas eu tive uma previsão: ADEUS G 4.
    Falta pouco. É uma pena.
    Infelizmente, algo aconteceu com Renato, além de toda sua soberba habitual.
    Já tinha dito, aquela história de renovação antecipada e ida CAUSAR PROBLEMAS….

    Jocelito tem razão.
    O Cruzeiro gastou R$ em alguns jogadores para montar esse time.
    Contudo, apostou também em um treinador emergente, e mesclou um time com jovens no elenco.

    Sou contra a renovação do Renato.
    Invistam no Ney Franco.

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